Unholy DW in Nexus

So with the new unholy DW specc I went Nexus to try it out. It was awesome, with a good tank there is no prob bringing diseases up an all nearby mobs and then Unholy Blight and SS. Just brutal damage... and it is just fun.

See for yourself - recount after finishing Nexus:


1st is me
2nd is DK with Blood 2Hand
3rd is Elemental Shaman in decent badgegear

For now it seems that Frost and Unholy are farewell balanced out, a bit to much burst possible with Unholy at the moment, and I think Blood-Caked Blade needs some working... proccing way to less, maybe just every few mobs.

Blood is surely underpowered at the moment, there is no way to keep up with Frost or Unholy at the moment - and also I was thinking about my Trybrid specc, which may be usable in Raids at lvl 80, but for questing / leveling it's better to go Frost or Unholy at the moment. You lack the selfhealing, but you bash the mobs fast.

And for the critics out there... there are other classes who also do 7000 or 8000 crits, so we are not the only ones. And it seems to me, that balancing is focused on lvl 80 raids and not the questing before.

Third movie !!

Finally, I managed to finish the scenes for my third movie on this beautifully Lag-Server... and here you go, a few fights in Northrend showing my Trybrid specc and the new Unholy DW specc at level 72:




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Music is listed at the end of the movie, if you have questions don't hesitate and post a comment.

Unholy DW surprise

So yesterday I was able to get an impression of Unholy when DWing. And boy was I surprised, the new Scourge Strike is awesome, hitting for nearly 7000 dmg critical - with a one hand weapon!

Also I finally saw my first Blood-Caked Blades procc in the combat log.

Here you have some screenshots of my combat log, sorry for the german, I'll explain everything below the Image:

Scourge Strike hits critcal for 6558 dmg.


Scourge Strike hits critical for 6804 dmg.

Scourge Strike hits for 2860 dmg
Necrosis proccs for 119 dmg
Blood-Caked Blade proccs for 413 dmg

Here you can see the recount after a few mobs, showing that Scourge Strike is first, followed by White Hits and Unholy Blight.

My third movie is in progress, showing the Trybrid build and some farming with Unholy build. As for now, the Unholy specc is in advantage... doing way more damage, and giving a nice combination through the synergies for shadow damage.

The build I used for those screenshots was:

2/9/52

At lvl 80 this could look like:

2/17/52

Hopefully I can release the third movie tonight or tomorrow. Stay tuned.

Build 8885

The new build 8885 has arrived and brought some changes to the DK. I will take a closer look at the next posting, what I have seen for now is the new Scourge Strike, now looking much better than Obliterate and maybe a worthy additon for DW... but that would mean I would have to skip my Trybrid Specc.

Maybe I'll give it a try...

Blood Caked Blades still seems to be buggy, my combat log isn't showing a single procc.
Hopefully this gets fixed soon.

Trybrid...

I was just thinking about my trispecc, which I now call "DW Trybrid". Most people suggest to go one tree deep until the ultimate... something like deep Frost for DW, or even deep Unholy.

I don't think that this is a good idea. Sure, your Dmg won't be calculated from your weapondmg at all, but what I ask myself... will this scale better than a Trybrid?

When doing a "Trybrid" specc, nearly all your skills that you are going to use are pushed in Crit and Dmg, and also your overall white damage will get an extreme boost... it seems that like everything starts to scale from everything.

Thinking of being lvl 80, this could look something like this:

33/19/19

To sum up the synergies:

5% more Crit
9% more Crit on Oblit and BS (sumed up 14% additional Crit)
6% Crit on Plague Strike (sumed up 11% additional Crit on this attack)
6 % more Shadowdamage (pushing Necrosis,Death Pact, Diseases)
15 % more Physical and Shadowdamage w Bloody Vengeance
11 % more Strength (Pushing everything)
15% more Haste w Icy Talons (Pushing swings and Necrosis)
3% Hit and 15% Offhand damage
10% AP proccing w Obliterate
25 AP per 1000 Armour
Necrosis and Blood Caked Blades for Auto Attacks

Of course this is all just theory for now. But I am doing very well with it while questing, and I can really feel every point I gain with equip. Sure we now need to see how this will be at 80 in decent equip... and when raiding in high end equip. But for that we will have to wait quite a while. Depends on how fast I will go when WotLK goes live.

;-)

Dwarf DK pictures

To share some of my recent experiments I will show you some pics, where I tried on some items I could find in the auction house as well as the first lvl 70 blacksmith tank set, that really looks decent on a dwarf... also I give you some pics when you start a flight from dalaran... so here you go:

Further DPS testing...

Huanz from the official EU Beta Forum did some further tests regarding DW Frost and 2 Hand Frost as well as blood to compare the DPS and the Damage at Level 73... and here you have the suprise:

DW can keep up with 2 Hand!!!

And here you have the stats with pictures, short explanation afterwards...

Deep Blood 2 Hand



DPS: ~1170
Build: 51/0/13

Deep Frost 2 Hand



DPS: ~1290
Build: 15/49/0

Deep Frost Dual Wield



DPS: ~1320
Build: 5/44/15

Rotation (after a few Cycles):

IT -> PS -> BS -> IT (BotN DeathRune) -> HB -> Frost Strike -> Frost Strike

Comparison and conclusion:

So here you have the surprise ... just being at lvl 73 shows, what potential lies beneath DW.
To sum it up:

Frost DW does about 1320 DPS, infight there can be peaks to nearly 1400 DPS
3-spec DW does about 1220 DPS, infight there can be peaks to nearly 1300 DPS

Frost 2H does about 1290 DPS, infight there can be peaks to nearly 1400 DPS
Blood 2H does about 1170 DP S, infight there can be peaks to nearly 1200 DPS

Frost shows much potential for good burst, resulting in higher peaks during fight. It seems realistic that at lvl 80 you can easily reach peaks over 2000 DPS. Followed by that is my trispec, showing more consistent DPS and also some potential... maybe I can get a few pieces of better gear than my green quest stuff and some new weapons.

New DPS Test

I reached lvl 72 and wanted to try my developed Trispec again, last time at 70 I was able to get over 1000 dps... this time I managed to break that again:

My Trispec for that level is a mixture of deeper blood combined with the best synergies from Frost and Unholy - click for the link:

29/18/16

For the ones who are not familiar with german recount:

1. White Damage
2. Obliterate
3. Necrosis
4. Blood Strike
5. Death Pact

Really interesting to see the DMG of Necrosis reaching 12%. I did not skill BCB because it still seems to be buggy, but those 3 points are reserved when BCB is working.

And it is good to see how the pure DMG is scaling with Hit, Crit and AP... 2 levels, a bit of better gear and a fixed rotation brought me nearly 200 dps from the last time. This also is because of the pushed up synergies you get when speccing a "Trybrid", nearly all your skills that you are going to use are pushed in Crit and Dmg, and also your overall white damage will get an extreme boost.

At lvl 80 this could look something like this:

33/19/19

To sum up the synergies:

5% Crit
9% Crit on Oblit and BS
6% Crit on Plague Strike
6 % more Shadowdamage (necrosis ftw)
15 % more Physical and Shadowdamage (yay more necrosis)
11 % more Strength
15% more haste via icy talons
3% Hit and 15% Offhand damage
10% AP proccing on Obliterate
25 AP per 1000 Armour
Necrosis and Blood Caked Bake for Auto Attacks

Dear Jayde...

Everyone seems to know you in US Beta Forums:

http://jadefury.blogspot.com/

Don't get me wrong now, dear Jayde - I like how you put effort in the DK and try to make him better than he is now.

But you always forget 1 thing:

Dual Wield

The DK has the choice to do DW, but you really ignore that. It seems that you try to push everything in the direction you want it to be:

2 Handed Damage

That is not fair, nor correct. As a Beta Tester, you should test both sides and post suggestions to improve both sides. Your own opinion does not matter, as a Beta Tester you should be as neutral as possible and leave the choice to the players out there if they want to DW or 2Hand.

But please stop pushing everything in the "wrong" direction and try to keep thinking if your suggested changes would also be viable for DW or would it even make more worse.

Feel free to contact me, maybe we can find a way and work together.

Regards,

Edurol

Got the Chance to test Nexus with a new Trispecc... I'll post the thoughts on this one later:

29/18/15

Here you can see my recount after finishing:



Second place behind elemental Shaman... which is no prob for me because I know how awesome they DPS.

As you can see, most of my damage is white hits, followed by Obliterate and Necrosis. I wish BCB would work so I could skill that and see what it does...

But this trispecc has potential, and I think at 80 with nearly 3000 AP, 40% Crit, Hitcap and Haste, this build will do a tremendous amount of dmg.

I for now think that Frost is not satisfying for me as DW... when you skill Frost while DWing, the only strong spell not linked to your weapon damage is HB... the rest is not changing. It is like 2hand specc, and that is why I don't like it.

I really believe in the Trispecc with as many synergies as possible to be the ultimate style for DW DK. Surely 2h will scale better with all strikes, but a DK with 2h will never do a balanced trispecc to get every synergy for STR + CRIT that is there... he will focus on a tree to do good damage using a good rotation.

When DWing, most of the dmg comes from white hits, necrosis and something like Blood Strike or Obliterate. So it is clear for me that boosting ap, hit and crit, you will boost your white dmg and overall dps way up.

So I developed this Trispecc:

35/18/18

You get all important synergies for boosting damage of your white hits and crits... with the rotation:

IT - PS - OB - BS - BS - OB

or when "death rune mastery" finally is working:

IT - PS - DS - BS - BS - OB - OB - OB

The fact here is, that you push the dmg or your swings with necrosis and bcb, overall with bloody vengance... and you could put the 1 point from hysteria into shadow of death for even more str.

It just seems logical to me... My recount always shows that White Hits, Obliterate and Necrosis are leading - so I push that as far as possible.

Frost may be nice now for leveling with some sweet burst, but imho it is a 2h build (frost strike scaling way better with 2h) which has no real difference to DW, also for now this is the overpowered build like blood was before...